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		<title>By: Peter Chaldecott</title>
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		<dc:creator>Peter Chaldecott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 12 Oct 2008 02:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1. Frank, will you immediate repudiate your negative statements regarding Desal, considering your POSITIVE SUPPORT for desal at the Tuesday Candidate Forum?. I would hope you are not just telling people what they want to hear...that is not the mark of a good community leader!
 
2. In your final paragraphs regarding creek yields and pumping. As a water professional you owe your readers a better explanation of our creek conditions:-
 A. Yes, the amounts you stated (1600 af+) are allocated for Cambria&#039;s use BUT our first requirement is to maintain endangered species in both creeks. What this means is that when the creek surface starts to dry up, if species are caught in the  pools that remain, we can be held liable for their death (a &quot;taking&quot; which can result in heavy fines) particularly if we can be shown to have continued to pump without a respite to allow the creeks to recover.
Note, this has been explained (ad nauseam perhaps?) several times at CCSD mtgs. recently, I really hope folks pay attention to the mundane but important tasks of our water professionals.
B.. You mention dealing with State regulators. As recent as last Fall as creek levels fell we attempted to obtain relief from the  &quot;Taking&quot;  penalties if we had to pump Santa Rosa even more.This was greeted by silence, F &amp; G did not give us the courtesy of a response. Welcome to the (un)real world of local government.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1. Frank, will you immediate repudiate your negative statements regarding Desal, considering your POSITIVE SUPPORT for desal at the Tuesday Candidate Forum?. I would hope you are not just telling people what they want to hear&#8230;that is not the mark of a good community leader!</p>
<p>2. In your final paragraphs regarding creek yields and pumping. As a water professional you owe your readers a better explanation of our creek conditions:-<br />
 A. Yes, the amounts you stated (1600 af+) are allocated for Cambria&#8217;s use BUT our first requirement is to maintain endangered species in both creeks. What this means is that when the creek surface starts to dry up, if species are caught in the  pools that remain, we can be held liable for their death (a &#8220;taking&#8221; which can result in heavy fines) particularly if we can be shown to have continued to pump without a respite to allow the creeks to recover.<br />
Note, this has been explained (ad nauseam perhaps?) several times at CCSD mtgs. recently, I really hope folks pay attention to the mundane but important tasks of our water professionals.<br />
B.. You mention dealing with State regulators. As recent as last Fall as creek levels fell we attempted to obtain relief from the  &#8220;Taking&#8221;  penalties if we had to pump Santa Rosa even more.This was greeted by silence, F &#038; G did not give us the courtesy of a response. Welcome to the (un)real world of local government.</p>
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		<title>By: Gary Talley</title>
		<link>http://aboutcambria.com/2008/01/14/cambria-water-supply-opportunities/comment-page-1/#comment-134</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Talley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jan 2008 05:56:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone said in the second paragraph that &quot;New Dams are Controversial&quot;.

Just ask the recipients of water from this nations operating dams if they are
          &quot;Controversial&quot;.

If we can just find a way to cancel the paychecks of the California Coastal Commission and seat some REALISTIC people in their chairs a 
lot of problems will be solved in California.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone said in the second paragraph that &#8220;New Dams are Controversial&#8221;.</p>
<p>Just ask the recipients of water from this nations operating dams if they are<br />
          &#8220;Controversial&#8221;.</p>
<p>If we can just find a way to cancel the paychecks of the California Coastal Commission and seat some REALISTIC people in their chairs a<br />
lot of problems will be solved in California.</p>
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		<title>By: Deryl Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deryl Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Jan 2008 06:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Tampa Bay failures were bureaucratic, not technological.  It was an ill-advised contractual arrangement.

Santa Barbara is old old technology.  It was mothballed when they decided to tie into the State Water Project.  Something Cambria unfortunately declined to do because of cost.

The State Water Project is not reliable in a drought though.

Other agencies are using their systems as backup, just as CCSD is proposing to do.

Huntington Beach and San Diego municipalities or districts are not proposing plants.  Poseidon is proposing private plants in both locations.  The San Diego plant was recently overwhelmingly approved by the Coastal Commission, but now Sierra is suing over it.

It&#039;s funny to see complaining on this board about not being able to get state water since some of the people now complaining about desal are the same ones who blocked allowing the state water pipeline to reach Cambria.  I would be all for such a pipeline.  Who&#039;s going to pay for it? I would gladly pay more than my fiar share.  Do you really think that&#039;s cheaper than desal?  Check CCSD&#039;s studies on that.

&quot;Is it the CCSD or San Luis Obipso County who has failed us?&quot;  It&#039;s the citizens of Cambria, who have voted for the boards of CCSD over the years.

As for Santa Rosa, the SRWQCB says it&#039;s OK now to pump from there. CCSD is avoiding it because of the MTBE.  They can filter out the MTBE if they want to.  If you think they should, why don&#039;t you tell them that?  If they were willing to do that, fight the upstream users, and take their full allocation out of Santa Rosa, they would have enough capacity to lift the moratorium. Fine by me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Tampa Bay failures were bureaucratic, not technological.  It was an ill-advised contractual arrangement.</p>
<p>Santa Barbara is old old technology.  It was mothballed when they decided to tie into the State Water Project.  Something Cambria unfortunately declined to do because of cost.</p>
<p>The State Water Project is not reliable in a drought though.</p>
<p>Other agencies are using their systems as backup, just as CCSD is proposing to do.</p>
<p>Huntington Beach and San Diego municipalities or districts are not proposing plants.  Poseidon is proposing private plants in both locations.  The San Diego plant was recently overwhelmingly approved by the Coastal Commission, but now Sierra is suing over it.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny to see complaining on this board about not being able to get state water since some of the people now complaining about desal are the same ones who blocked allowing the state water pipeline to reach Cambria.  I would be all for such a pipeline.  Who&#8217;s going to pay for it? I would gladly pay more than my fiar share.  Do you really think that&#8217;s cheaper than desal?  Check CCSD&#8217;s studies on that.</p>
<p>&#8220;Is it the CCSD or San Luis Obipso County who has failed us?&#8221;  It&#8217;s the citizens of Cambria, who have voted for the boards of CCSD over the years.</p>
<p>As for Santa Rosa, the SRWQCB says it&#8217;s OK now to pump from there. CCSD is avoiding it because of the MTBE.  They can filter out the MTBE if they want to.  If you think they should, why don&#8217;t you tell them that?  If they were willing to do that, fight the upstream users, and take their full allocation out of Santa Rosa, they would have enough capacity to lift the moratorium. Fine by me.</p>
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		<title>By: Deryl Robinson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Deryl Robinson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jan 2008 01:55:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Quote: 
&quot;It is time we revisit exactly how desalination became the choice for water reliability in Cambria.Was the means for this choice legal?

It is time we challenge all the assumptions about the need for a new water source and revisit alternative in our own Water Master Plan&quot;

These things have already been done.  You can obtain copies and review them.  If you can shoot holes in them, please let us know about it.

Quote:
&quot;It is time we challenge all the assumptions that the water wait list has any legal foundation and that we have to build a desalination facility, fund a costly build out [reduction] plan just to provide water to those for those lot owners.&quot;

If you don&#039;t fund desal and a buildout reduction plan, you&#039;ll be funding an even bigger buildout reduction plan.

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&quot;It is time we find out exactly who are these wait list people to ensure there is no conflict of interest in any decisions regarding a water supply,&quot;

Considering you knew my waitlist position and published it here, even though it&#039;s not public information, it seems like you already know who the waitlist people are.  But if you really don&#039;t, I&#039;ll be more than happy to send you my list.  You won&#039;t find any lurking evil on it.  Just regular folks.

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&quot;It is time we give up on engineer driven water projects and planning that have dominated the CCSD mentality for 15 years. 21st century solutions are the key which means reuse of existing supplies and better management of existing supplies.&quot;

Are you saying that reuse and management of existing programs would not have engineering?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Quote:<br />
&#8220;It is time we revisit exactly how desalination became the choice for water reliability in Cambria.Was the means for this choice legal?</p>
<p>It is time we challenge all the assumptions about the need for a new water source and revisit alternative in our own Water Master Plan&#8221;</p>
<p>These things have already been done.  You can obtain copies and review them.  If you can shoot holes in them, please let us know about it.</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
&#8220;It is time we challenge all the assumptions that the water wait list has any legal foundation and that we have to build a desalination facility, fund a costly build out [reduction] plan just to provide water to those for those lot owners.&#8221;</p>
<p>If you don&#8217;t fund desal and a buildout reduction plan, you&#8217;ll be funding an even bigger buildout reduction plan.</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
&#8220;It is time we find out exactly who are these wait list people to ensure there is no conflict of interest in any decisions regarding a water supply,&#8221;</p>
<p>Considering you knew my waitlist position and published it here, even though it&#8217;s not public information, it seems like you already know who the waitlist people are.  But if you really don&#8217;t, I&#8217;ll be more than happy to send you my list.  You won&#8217;t find any lurking evil on it.  Just regular folks.</p>
<p>Quote:<br />
&#8220;It is time we give up on engineer driven water projects and planning that have dominated the CCSD mentality for 15 years. 21st century solutions are the key which means reuse of existing supplies and better management of existing supplies.&#8221;</p>
<p>Are you saying that reuse and management of existing programs would not have engineering?</p>
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